Agenda item

Remote Meetings: Draft Procedure Rules

Minutes:

79/19              

The Council considered a report that proposed the adoption of a set of Remote Meeting Procedure Rules that modified the application of its existing procedure rules to ensure that the Council could make decisions by remote means.  The report emphasised that, unless the Council adopted a set of Remote Meeting Procedure Rules, then any decisions it might make would not be in accordance with its Constitution and would therefore be unlawful.

 

The Leader of Council introduced the report and highlighted that:

 

-       the Local Authorities and Police and Crime Panels (Coronavirus) (Flexibility of Local Authority and Police and Crime Panel Meetings) (England and Wales) Regulations 2020 came into force on 4 April 2020.  The Leader proceeded to inform that these Regulations made amendments to the existing legislation to enable for local authorities to hold meetings remotely;

-       the primary purpose of these Regulations was to relieve local authorities from the burden of unnecessary meetings in order that their officers were able to deal with assisting in the response to the Covid-19 Crisis;

-       the Crisis had led to a fundamental change in focus for the Council.  As a consequence of officer resource being dedicated to the Crisis, then the Council had insufficient officer capacity to support the monthly Member meeting cycle at this present time;

-       whilst it was intended that fewer formal meetings would be convened, the Leader gave a commitment that additional informal Member briefings would be set up.  The intention of convening more informal briefings was to ensure that all Members were not only kept updated but would also be given an opportunity to express their views and ask questions;

-       the recommendation to temporarily prevent the ability for Questions and Motions on Notice to be submitted to Council meetings was in recognition of how resource intensive these tended to be; and

-       with regard to the Overview and Scrutiny function, it was unlikely that any overview matters would be deemed so urgent to necessitate a meeting of the Overview and Scrutiny Panel at the present time.

 

In the ensuing discussion, particular reference was made to:-

 

(a)  an amendment was PROPOSED and SECONDED that read as follows:

 

1.    That the Council adopts the Remote Meetings Procedure Rules (as set out at Appendix A of the presented agenda report), with the exception of paragraphs 3.1 and 3.3;

2.    That the Political Structures Working Group meet prior to the next meeting of the Full Council and put forward its recommendations in respect of the frequency of meetings and by whom they can be requested; and

3.    That the Remote Meetings Procedure Rules be subject to review by Full Council on or before 31 July 2020. 

 

In presenting his amendment, the proposer advised that:

 

o  Adoption of the Procedure Rules as set out in the agenda papers could damage the work that had been undertaken by the Council since May 2019 to become a more consensual and inclusive local authority;

o  The three areas of the draft Rules that gave particular cause for concern were:

§  The decision resting with the Head of Paid Service, in consultation with the Leader of Council, as to whether formal Member meetings were required to be held;

§  The proposal effectively closing down the Overview and Scrutiny function.  As a consequence, the proposer was concerned that this could result in the Executive and Senior Officers effectively having free reign without any recourse or challenge; and

§  The recommendation to prevent Questions and Motions on Notice at Council meetings to be allowed was contradictory to the democratic process.  Furthermore, the proposer advised that the Regulations did not prevent these from being allowed and he was strongly of the view that the ability to submit Questions and Motions on Notice at Council meetings should be instated into the Rules;

o  His amendment was intended to enable for further consideration to be given specifically to paragraphs 3.1 and 3.3 of the Rules by the Political Structures Working Group in the next few days before its findings were then reported back to the next Council meeting on 30 April 2020.

 

During the ensuing debate on the amendment, the following views were expressed in support:

 

-    The Director of Research for the Centre of Public Scrutiny had expressed his reservations over the proposal to diminish the Overview and Scrutiny function.  In addition, similar concerns had been raised by the South Hams Society;

-    Adoption of the Rules as presented would effectively shut down the Council’s democratic process.  This was felt to be particularly pertinent when considering that these Rules could be in place until May 2021;

-    A number of other local authorities were reverting back to their Member Meeting cycles in accordance with their respective adopted Calendar of Meetings and it was now a key time for good decision-making processes to be in place;

-    The remote meetings that had been held to date had worked efficiently and the technology should not be seen as a barrier to prevent formal Member meetings from being held;

 

In contrast, other Members advised that they did not support the amendment and made the following points:

 

-    The proposals were not intended to undermine the Council’s   democratic processes but were a reflection of the extraordinary      times that the Council was living through at this current time;

-    It was reiterated that formal Member meetings would still be held, but that these would be held as and when they were deemed necessary;

-    The focus of all Members at this present time should be on their respective local communities and not the formal Member Meeting Cycle; and

-    There was a corporate commitment for the Council to revert back to ‘Business As Usual’ as soon as it was practically possible.

 

When put to the vote, the amendment was declared LOST;

 

(b)  two suggested revisions to the draft Procedure Rules.  For clarification, and to allay some of the concerns raised during the debate on the amendment, the proposer and seconder of the substantive motion asked that the following two revisions being included in their proposal:

 

1.  Paragraph 3.1(a):

 

Replace ‘in consultation with the Leader’ with ‘in consultation with the Members of the Executive’; and

 

2.  Paragraph 6.2:

 

‘On a motion being put to the vote, the Mayor/Chairman or the clerk to the meeting will ask each member, taking each in alphabetical order, to say if they are for or against the motion or whether they abstain. The Mayor/Chairman or the clerk to the meeting will announce the numerical result of the vote immediately the result is known. For the avoidance of doubt, there shall not be any voting by ballot’.

 

(c)  the work of Council officers during the Covid-19 Crisis.  A number of Members paid tribute to the excellent work and dedication that was being demonstrated by officers in what was such incredibly difficult times.

 

In accordance with Council Procedure Rule 15.5, a recorded vote was then undertaken on the substantive motion.  The voting on this motion was recorded as follows:

 

For the motion (21):Cllrs Austen, Baldry, Bastone, Brazil, Brown, Chown, Foss, Hawkins, Holway, Hopwood, Long, May, Pearce, Pringle, Reeve, Rowe, Smerdon, Spencer, Sweett, Taylor and Thomas

 

Against the motion (7):  Cllrs Abbott, Birch, Hodgson, Jackson, McKay, O’Callaghan, Rose,

 

Abstentions (1):  Pannell.

 

Absent (2):  Cllrs Kemp and Pennington

 

and the vote on the motion was therefore declared CARRIED.

 

It was then:

 

RESOLVED

 

That the Remote Meetings Procedure Rules (as set out at Appendix A of the presented agenda report) be adopted, subject to inclusion of the following revisions:

 

1.    Paragraph 3.1(a):

 

Replace ‘in consultation with the Leader’ with ‘in consultation with the Members of the Executive’; and

 

2.    Paragraph 6.2:

 

‘On a motion being put to the vote, the Mayor/Chairman or the clerk to the meeting will ask each member, taking each in alphabetical order, to say if they are for or against the motion or whether they abstain. The Mayor/Chairman or the clerk to the meeting will announce the numerical result of the vote immediately the result is known. For the avoidance of doubt, there shall not be any voting by ballot’.

 

 

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